Reading this site is quite interesting at the moment (www.thespearhead.com) the owner of the site sounds as though he is a pretty reasonable guy even if I don't always (ever?) agree with him. He is currently trying to stop trolls probably from a site called Manhood Academy 101 while at the same time maintaining freedom of speech. As anyone who has ever had anything to do with any Internet forum will tell you it is a completely impossible task as moderators need to delete posts which could bring the weight of the law down on them.
On balance I'm beginning to think that comments which are just a stream of abuse are less dangerous than guys who post comments like this:
My personal opinion is that I will not allow any woman to live in my house that does not sign a binding contract with me which waives all rights including the right to life. I will not allow any woman to live in my house that I could not kill with impunity.
Basically this Manhood 101 site would definitely condone the above comment. I have not registered on the Spearhead though there are women who post on there though I do read it regularly because there are some interesting articles on there - whether or not you agree with them. But Manhood Academy was criticised at length by Paul Elam - one of the more reasonable MRA people - for advocating using pain against women as a way of disciplining them and making them bow to a man's authority. They say they don't mean physical pain but their idea is making the women feel bad if she upsets the man so she won't do it again. This is not treating women as equally valuable people as men - this is treating them as inferior and setting men as the only arbiters of behaviour because women are not capable of being responsible for their own behaviour.
This sort of thing is dangerous and if it gains too much support could overthrow all the equality legislation the Western world - supported by both men and women - has managed to put in place. The 1970's were never like this. Andrea Dworkin was pretty extreme though she is always quoted out of context. But the above quote makes Germaine Greer look like a pussy cat - with claws removed.
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Female stupidity knows few boundaries and this blog post proves it. Paul Elam was angry with Manhood Academy after they exposed him for being a hypocritical fraud: http://goo.gl/KGnK
ReplyDeleteThese are Manhood Academy MUST WATCH VIDEOS:
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OdQGbVNa4
The Problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4zSRkBMPng
The Solution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzkbzd0YqJI
The Application: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfJETp0hcUE
So anyone is stupid who doesn't agree with you? Says it all really. I don't agree with you at all I'm afraid. Paul Elam comes over to me as someone who is capable of discussing a subject in a calm and rational manner. The people who were responding to him were neither calm not rational. No I don't agree with very much of what Paul Elam says but at least he says it without using insults.
ReplyDeleteIs that why Paul Elam ADMITTING TO LYING? So you support a guy who admitted he lies about anyone he disagrees with? Just like an idiot woman to refuse to tell the truth: http://manhood101.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=287
DeleteI'd say you have to be pretty stupid to think that applying pain (e.g., disciplining a child) automatically implies that the child is lesser or inferior to the adult. Only a stupid feminist woman or an emasculated man would come to that silly conclusion.
ReplyDeleteAnd you have to be equally stupid to think that Paul Elam isn't insulting. Or are you too stupid to read? http://goo.gl/KGnK
ReplyDeleteI can only comment on what I've read of his as I said.
ReplyDeleteI think suggesting men are the arbiters of what is acceptable behaviour from a woman as quoted in one of the comments on The Spearhead article was extremely patronising as it read as though they were disciplining a child. If you want an adult relationship then you both behave like adults.
Men and women in a close relationship are equal in my opinion and if it's acceptable for a man to try and get a woman to change her behaviour then it is equally acceptable for a woman to do the same thing if the man treats her in an unacceptable fashion. But you would say this just shows I'm a stupid feminist I suppose.
You are operating from a starting point that says men make the decisions in a close relationship - I would say both men and women make the decisions between them after discussion and consideration of both parties' viewpoints - it's called being an adult.
Try reading Eric Berne's The Games People Play (Transactional Analysis) and you will then understand what I'm saying. Too many men operate on the basis that women are children and need to be trained and disciplined - this is what led to the feminist movement. Women got sick of being told they were prevented from doing certain things for their own good.
I think you're right that this kind of stuff is dangerous. All of it, rationally argued or not.
ReplyDeleteBut I don't think it could ever overthrow equality legislation. They are a small and impotent minority opinion. My main concern would be for any women around them in real life and the state of their mental and physical health.
The fact that women are too stupid to coherently or rationally argue their position proves Manhood Academy is right all along: http://goo.gl/Pr0d
ReplyDeleteand manhood academy is rational? If it is then God help the rest of us - male and female!
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ReplyDeleteGG - I will not tolerate bad language on here. If you can't discuss things rationally without using offensive language then every comment you make will be deleted. You have been warned
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty clear this woman is too stupid to tell the truth. Send that dumb biitch here: http://chickacademy.com
ReplyDeleteAnyone who subscribes to manhood academy or comes to it's defense are morally reprehensible imbeciles with zero moral authority who must hide behind anonymity to espouse their stone aged hate filled agenda.
ReplyDeleteThey are cowards. If they feel they are correct then I suggest they run for local government and find out just how far these beliefs would take you In the public eye.
simply a bunch of Gynophobic misogynists whose minority view is self perpetuated by their own collective ignorance.